Hi Dear Mr Wolff
How about the following line:
Since south places West with diamond A, the only way he could get defeated is to lose one diamond, two trumps and a club and to prevent that, perhaps declarer should find out how clubs are placed . So he could lead a club from dummy after winning diamond K , finesses in clubs playing low from dummy and when Q wins, he knocks out diamond entry by leading one. West does best by leading a heart, dummy wins, south ruffs a diamond and leads spade to K. East ducks but south comes to hand with heart and leads another spade finessing ten . Whatever east plays now, south prevails
Regards
Iain ClimieApril 15th, 2020 at 1:56 pm
Hi AVRR,
That works as the cards lie but what if East has CK10x when you’ve now got a slow club loser. Assuming that declarer is going to lose 2S (not certain at first) and 1 D, what is the best %age shot in clubs?
regards,
Iain
A V Ramana RaoApril 15th, 2020 at 2:31 pm
Hi lain
If south is staring at two trump losers apart from the diamond A already lost, only hope is to bring down the club K doubleton. As the cards lay , there is no third club trick otherwise.
Regards
bobbywolffApril 15th, 2020 at 4:44 pm
Hi AVRR & Iain,
With all agreeing on best way (only one) to play both the pointed suits (at least in spades to start out with low to the queen), the winning way in clubs, remains to be seen, doubleton king on side, (right), or, of course assuming that, but either smothering the theoretical ten from West or playing East for both the king and the ten.
Since the club guess (and possibly the spade jack and ace) are the two choices still up for grabs, it is often best to try and get counts (here, which opponent appears longer in clubs) before committing between the club king dropping and/or the finesse of the ten (after the jack) is covered.
Of course, a further complication is whether the declarer can stand a 4-1 wrong side spade lie, which by playing the clubs as he did, is able to manage (barely).
Yes, Virginia, in bridge it can get complicated, and in its way (going back to Monday’s discussion), often gets as cerebral as the great game, Chess, and instead of only one motive (capturing the opponent’s king), each suit becomes a problem to solve with the logic often combined in being able to use one known fact to demand what is necessary in the second one to succeed.
Another little thought truth is in bridge and especially at the higher levels, one partner is often in the direct line of fire, but has a person across from him silently cheering, while in chess, one is entirely alone, more likely to create depression.
Furthermore, the same can be said for their opponents. Result is that the thrill of bridge is for both sides to play and defend perfectly and if so, at least in theory there should be four satisfied players, although in fact only two will also be happy.
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Hi Dear Mr Wolff
How about the following line:
Since south places West with diamond A, the only way he could get defeated is to lose one diamond, two trumps and a club and to prevent that, perhaps declarer should find out how clubs are placed . So he could lead a club from dummy after winning diamond K , finesses in clubs playing low from dummy and when Q wins, he knocks out diamond entry by leading one. West does best by leading a heart, dummy wins, south ruffs a diamond and leads spade to K. East ducks but south comes to hand with heart and leads another spade finessing ten . Whatever east plays now, south prevails
Regards
Hi AVRR,
That works as the cards lie but what if East has CK10x when you’ve now got a slow club loser. Assuming that declarer is going to lose 2S (not certain at first) and 1 D, what is the best %age shot in clubs?
regards,
Iain
Hi lain
If south is staring at two trump losers apart from the diamond A already lost, only hope is to bring down the club K doubleton. As the cards lay , there is no third club trick otherwise.
Regards
Hi AVRR & Iain,
With all agreeing on best way (only one) to play both the pointed suits (at least in spades to start out with low to the queen), the winning way in clubs, remains to be seen, doubleton king on side, (right), or, of course assuming that, but either smothering the theoretical ten from West or playing East for both the king and the ten.
Since the club guess (and possibly the spade jack and ace) are the two choices still up for grabs, it is often best to try and get counts (here, which opponent appears longer in clubs) before committing between the club king dropping and/or the finesse of the ten (after the jack) is covered.
Of course, a further complication is whether the declarer can stand a 4-1 wrong side spade lie, which by playing the clubs as he did, is able to manage (barely).
Yes, Virginia, in bridge it can get complicated, and in its way (going back to Monday’s discussion), often gets as cerebral as the great game, Chess, and instead of only one motive (capturing the opponent’s king), each suit becomes a problem to solve with the logic often combined in being able to use one known fact to demand what is necessary in the second one to succeed.
Another little thought truth is in bridge and especially at the higher levels, one partner is often in the direct line of fire, but has a person across from him silently cheering, while in chess, one is entirely alone, more likely to create depression.
Furthermore, the same can be said for their opponents. Result is that the thrill of bridge is for both sides to play and defend perfectly and if so, at least in theory there should be four satisfied players, although in fact only two will also be happy.