Layouts like these are why I advocate for strong jump shifts in uncontested auctions. 1H-2S showing a hand forcing to game, six good spades and possible slam interest means that South’s rebid of 3D is more compelling.
Bob Lipton
bobbywolffNovember 25th, 2023 at 3:05 pm
Hi Bob,
You make an excellent point by alerting partner, thus enabling him, once forced to game, to search, and in this case find, a third suit to which play slam. However the question of which conundrum, especially when it is yet to be bid, and already the bidding will usually be at the three level.
Just another fact to be found while on the way with discussion between an established
partnership as to what to, in their opinion, to emphasize.
All I am really suggesting is that, in order to first basically agree on a suit, while early in an auction, will usually provide for the most room to exchange specific card holdings, often necessary, but sometimes short in the ability to sign off at the game level, instead of one higher. Another way to suggest that, in food, you can order what you want, but you may not, because of complications, be able to eat it.
However, and in no way, am I trying to dissuade you from your opinion, only to clarify what I think is part of a possible problem. And yes, the hand presented is an excellent example of what is discussed above. At a slam level, diamonds are IMO clearly the suit to be named as trump.
Robert LiptonNovember 25th, 2023 at 4:42 pm
I forget who it was who alerted me to it, but I recall a writer nothing that he could rebid his suit and show partner six cards, or bid his second suit and show partner nine of his cards. Although there are times I wish to keep opponents in the dark, sometimes you have to spill the beans to partner. I conceive of the bidding as 1H-2S-3D-4D-4H-4S-5C-5H-?
As the card lay, 7 Diamonds can be made by reading them perfectly and establishing the Spades. 6 Diamonds looks right single dummy.
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Layouts like these are why I advocate for strong jump shifts in uncontested auctions. 1H-2S showing a hand forcing to game, six good spades and possible slam interest means that South’s rebid of 3D is more compelling.
Bob Lipton
Hi Bob,
You make an excellent point by alerting partner, thus enabling him, once forced to game, to search, and in this case find, a third suit to which play slam. However the question of which conundrum, especially when it is yet to be bid, and already the bidding will usually be at the three level.
Just another fact to be found while on the way with discussion between an established
partnership as to what to, in their opinion, to emphasize.
All I am really suggesting is that, in order to first basically agree on a suit, while early in an auction, will usually provide for the most room to exchange specific card holdings, often necessary, but sometimes short in the ability to sign off at the game level, instead of one higher. Another way to suggest that, in food, you can order what you want, but you may not, because of complications, be able to eat it.
However, and in no way, am I trying to dissuade you from your opinion, only to clarify what I think is part of a possible problem. And yes, the hand presented is an excellent example of what is discussed above. At a slam level, diamonds are IMO clearly the suit to be named as trump.
I forget who it was who alerted me to it, but I recall a writer nothing that he could rebid his suit and show partner six cards, or bid his second suit and show partner nine of his cards. Although there are times I wish to keep opponents in the dark, sometimes you have to spill the beans to partner. I conceive of the bidding as 1H-2S-3D-4D-4H-4S-5C-5H-?
As the card lay, 7 Diamonds can be made by reading them perfectly and establishing the Spades. 6 Diamonds looks right single dummy.
Bob Lipton