I pretty much duplicated the reasoning in the “Mixed Up” response, but it led me to lead a diamond.
LHO appears to have four spades and RHO seems to have something resembling a spade stopper to have bid 3N in that auction.
OTOH, RHO has made no promise of any contributory cards in diamonds. I also tend to assume that partner’s doubles either ask for the lead of a suit bid by dummy or can stand such a lead. Since I have three diamonds to the ten-spot and RHO declined to sit for three diamonds, I suspect the defense will go well with repeated diamond leads from my side, and my heart tops ensure I will get on lead at least one more time.
bobbywolffFebruary 4th, 2024 at 3:14 pm
Hi Jim2,
As always, first your very logical discussion tells most, if not all, of what figures to be right on correct. Next, the sound weak two bid by you seems to include a safety play, definitely not good news for your opponents. Third, your partner likely heard the bidding from the close-in
next able and thought the opponents bid 6NT instead of three and instead, doubled for what you likely held in your hand and, of course was right on, but got lucky.
However that same commodity should cause you to hold the overtricks down and cash the AK of hearts before the rats got them. Not sure of the certain bad luck that you will receive, but only the fact that it WILL occur.
However, please understand that your advice, always cherished, will be forwarded to other
top level bridge players, to be permanently recorded. Your presence is always a pleasure
to behold and NEVER a waste of time, only a condition precedent to sadly behold.
Finally, perhaps your partner was speculating with a psychic penalty double, a bid which cause a major bitter fistfight several months ago, but was well thought out to occur just that way by your overactive partner.
Robert LiptonFebruary 4th, 2024 at 4:24 pm
I think it a good idea to have some understandings in place for “Mixed Up”. When information is available from the bidding, business doubles of NT are, in order, 1: Lead your suit; 2:Lead my suit; 3: Lead dummy’s suit. This is based on the observation that the “obvious” lead here requires no double for a good score at Match Points.
While I agree with the analyses offered, I think a heart led here is a good idea. All it requires is a semi-decent split and/or doubleton heart to the T in partner’s hand.
But it’s good to have understandings in place, if only to curb partner’s disastrous speculations.
Bob Lipton
jim2February 4th, 2024 at 4:59 pm
Robert Lipton –
A heart could indeed work out (unless **I*** led it, of course!), but I think a 2H opener would normally lead that suit such that a Double asks for a different than normal lead.
Note, that the above “standard” interpretation is why I believe the original text carefully stated that “partner is probably doubling on power.”
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I pretty much duplicated the reasoning in the “Mixed Up” response, but it led me to lead a diamond.
LHO appears to have four spades and RHO seems to have something resembling a spade stopper to have bid 3N in that auction.
OTOH, RHO has made no promise of any contributory cards in diamonds. I also tend to assume that partner’s doubles either ask for the lead of a suit bid by dummy or can stand such a lead. Since I have three diamonds to the ten-spot and RHO declined to sit for three diamonds, I suspect the defense will go well with repeated diamond leads from my side, and my heart tops ensure I will get on lead at least one more time.
Hi Jim2,
As always, first your very logical discussion tells most, if not all, of what figures to be right on correct. Next, the sound weak two bid by you seems to include a safety play, definitely not good news for your opponents. Third, your partner likely heard the bidding from the close-in
next able and thought the opponents bid 6NT instead of three and instead, doubled for what you likely held in your hand and, of course was right on, but got lucky.
However that same commodity should cause you to hold the overtricks down and cash the AK of hearts before the rats got them. Not sure of the certain bad luck that you will receive, but only the fact that it WILL occur.
However, please understand that your advice, always cherished, will be forwarded to other
top level bridge players, to be permanently recorded. Your presence is always a pleasure
to behold and NEVER a waste of time, only a condition precedent to sadly behold.
Finally, perhaps your partner was speculating with a psychic penalty double, a bid which cause a major bitter fistfight several months ago, but was well thought out to occur just that way by your overactive partner.
I think it a good idea to have some understandings in place for “Mixed Up”. When information is available from the bidding, business doubles of NT are, in order, 1: Lead your suit; 2:Lead my suit; 3: Lead dummy’s suit. This is based on the observation that the “obvious” lead here requires no double for a good score at Match Points.
While I agree with the analyses offered, I think a heart led here is a good idea. All it requires is a semi-decent split and/or doubleton heart to the T in partner’s hand.
But it’s good to have understandings in place, if only to curb partner’s disastrous speculations.
Bob Lipton
Robert Lipton –
A heart could indeed work out (unless **I*** led it, of course!), but I think a 2H opener would normally lead that suit such that a Double asks for a different than normal lead.
Note, that the above “standard” interpretation is why I believe the original text carefully stated that “partner is probably doubling on power.”