I’m not sure I agree with 5H being “just right” today; nobody ever wants to play there unless it is solid except for 2 quick losers. It basically needs H3-2 or an extra chance here, so isn’t bad, but NS were maybe both pushy especially given the warning from East’s bid. That DQJ alone could be waste paper and I’d have been tempted to downgrade the South hand to 1C despite the good majors.
Should North put the anchors on after South bids 3H and then shows no interest over 4D? After all, South could have bid 4H, 4S or even 4D with a better hand e.g. DAx and 2 4 card majors. There again, if South had the C9, he is home on the second line you suggest.
Thanks for all the comments from you and Patrick on Monday – very interesting and useful.
Regards,
Iain
bobbywolffNovember 22nd, 2023 at 5:34 pm
Hi Iain,
Methinks that the “just right” is attributed to the Goldilocks syndrome of porridge, rather than our beautiful game, since the five level for major suits in bridge, is always only good for those hated opponents to “light”.
Yes, I agree that the doubleton QJ of diamonds is a relatively huge deficit to a 15-17 1NT
which starts out on the bottom rung. However, then it would be heavenly as opposed to disgusting to not hear (after the earlier effort) from partner, and a miracle slam had been scored up), “Well pard, I gave you every chance for us to get there”.
In bridge, it might be said that the less conversation a top-level player and partner brings to the table is his complete silence, particularly so when less than good results have found, where we are roosting.
Finally, thanks for your appreciation of Patrick and me. Perhaps the three of us should find one of our almost daily kibitzers here on this site for a “table up”, and speaking of “up” it won’t be likely during this life, but perhaps in the next one, and let it be in that direction to our bridge appointment, rather than the opposite.
bobbywolffNovember 22nd, 2023 at 6:10 pm
And I believe that the word I used “light”, should be spelled “lite”. Poorly educated, too much bridge!
jim2November 22nd, 2023 at 7:03 pm
I was West when this was dealt at the 2012 Mud Cup.
The bidding went exactly as Our Host portrayed it. Well, right up until …
I could see N-S struggling. Well, at least South was. All he saw was his partner going batscat crazy.
You see, North had apparently decided on slam, so when South bid 5H, he bid 5S!
South decided that was the last stop on the way to doubles, so he passed!
North went into a silent fit of apoplexy. I swear steam steamed out of both nostrils. My partner could not resist a chuckle, and promptly led out his top diamonds.
-650 and another bottom.
Patrick CheuNovember 22nd, 2023 at 9:41 pm
Hi Bobby,Iain and Jim2,It’s good to be part of a bridge ‘family’ and sure is uplifting in these difficult and challenging times. Cheers Patrick 🙂
bobbywolffNovember 22nd, 2023 at 11:52 pm
Hi Patrick & the rest of our family,
It is people like you (for many years) who have greatly contributed to that very worthy and, in its way, magnificent cause.
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Hi Bobby,
I’m not sure I agree with 5H being “just right” today; nobody ever wants to play there unless it is solid except for 2 quick losers. It basically needs H3-2 or an extra chance here, so isn’t bad, but NS were maybe both pushy especially given the warning from East’s bid. That DQJ alone could be waste paper and I’d have been tempted to downgrade the South hand to 1C despite the good majors.
Should North put the anchors on after South bids 3H and then shows no interest over 4D? After all, South could have bid 4H, 4S or even 4D with a better hand e.g. DAx and 2 4 card majors. There again, if South had the C9, he is home on the second line you suggest.
Thanks for all the comments from you and Patrick on Monday – very interesting and useful.
Regards,
Iain
Hi Iain,
Methinks that the “just right” is attributed to the Goldilocks syndrome of porridge, rather than our beautiful game, since the five level for major suits in bridge, is always only good for those hated opponents to “light”.
Yes, I agree that the doubleton QJ of diamonds is a relatively huge deficit to a 15-17 1NT
which starts out on the bottom rung. However, then it would be heavenly as opposed to disgusting to not hear (after the earlier effort) from partner, and a miracle slam had been scored up), “Well pard, I gave you every chance for us to get there”.
In bridge, it might be said that the less conversation a top-level player and partner brings to the table is his complete silence, particularly so when less than good results have found, where we are roosting.
Finally, thanks for your appreciation of Patrick and me. Perhaps the three of us should find one of our almost daily kibitzers here on this site for a “table up”, and speaking of “up” it won’t be likely during this life, but perhaps in the next one, and let it be in that direction to our bridge appointment, rather than the opposite.
And I believe that the word I used “light”, should be spelled “lite”. Poorly educated, too much bridge!
I was West when this was dealt at the 2012 Mud Cup.
The bidding went exactly as Our Host portrayed it. Well, right up until …
I could see N-S struggling. Well, at least South was. All he saw was his partner going batscat crazy.
You see, North had apparently decided on slam, so when South bid 5H, he bid 5S!
South decided that was the last stop on the way to doubles, so he passed!
North went into a silent fit of apoplexy. I swear steam steamed out of both nostrils. My partner could not resist a chuckle, and promptly led out his top diamonds.
-650 and another bottom.
Hi Bobby,Iain and Jim2,It’s good to be part of a bridge ‘family’ and sure is uplifting in these difficult and challenging times. Cheers Patrick 🙂
Hi Patrick & the rest of our family,
It is people like you (for many years) who have greatly contributed to that very worthy and, in its way, magnificent cause.